Comments on: Should major league baseball and football require all players to get drug tested every year? http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/ smart sports discussion Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:23:05 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: John Rambo http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3774 John Rambo Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:21:13 +0000 http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/#comment-3774 They already do, every player is tested at some point during the season.<a href="http://www.safedebthelp.com/help-me-pay-off-my-debt.htm"> John Rambo</a> They already do, every player is tested at some point during the season. John Rambo

]]> By: asdfghjkl; http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3773 asdfghjkl; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 06:10:50 +0000 http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/#comment-3773 i think so...pro teams need to get past this stupid steroid thing<a href="http://www.doggydisease.com/autoimmune-disease-in-dog.htm"> asdfghjkl;</a> i think so…pro teams need to get past this stupid steroid thing asdfghjkl;

]]> By: Hacker14 http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3772 Hacker14 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 02:09:13 +0000 http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/#comment-3772 Yes! this is the only way that the steroids era(the 90's till now) wont repeat itself. think of it if they had this the whole Barry Bonds Homerun problem would not be happening right now<a href="http://www.teambuildingdirectory.com/atlanta-team-building.htm"> Hacker14</a> Yes! this is the only way that the steroids era(the 90’s till now) wont repeat itself. think of it if they had this the whole Barry Bonds Homerun problem would not be happening right now Hacker14

]]> By: K.B. http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3771 K.B. Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:50:07 +0000 http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/#comment-3771 That's the biggest joke of this whole thing. People who take drugs know how to get around tests. Whether its early warning from an inside source, or using a "kit", or fake urine, it makes no difference. The test they have in place now is urine only and only the idiots are getting caught by those tests. They think that blood samples would be to intrusive... how about hair? Surely they couldn't object to pulling one strand of hair from your body.... ahhh I know better. They have all kinds of products to mask that as well. The only real solution is to jack up the penalty so high that it out ways the reward of cheating. If you give them 5 strikes they will take 4 before they even think about going clean. I say first offense 2 year ban from the game....second positive test BUH BYE NOW !<a href="http://www.businessbrokersguide.com/business-loan-broker.htm"> K.B.</a> That’s the biggest joke of this whole thing. People who take drugs know how to get around tests. Whether its early warning from an inside source, or using a “kit”, or fake urine, it makes no difference. The test they have in place now is urine only and only the idiots are getting caught by those tests. They think that blood samples would be to intrusive… how about hair? Surely they couldn’t object to pulling one strand of hair from your body…. ahhh I know better. They have all kinds of products to mask that as well.

The only real solution is to jack up the penalty so high that it out ways the reward of cheating. If you give them 5 strikes they will take 4 before they even think about going clean.

I say first offense 2 year ban from the game….second positive test BUH BYE NOW ! K.B.

]]> By: Michael M http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3770 Michael M Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:02:40 +0000 http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/#comment-3770 yes. used to work for teh railroad and it was random drug testing. so why not in sports. ......<a href="http://www.premierhomestyle.com/bath-fixtures-1538"> Michael M</a> yes. used to work for teh railroad and it was random drug testing. so why not in sports. …… Michael M

]]> By: hatton http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3769 hatton Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:03:40 +0000 http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/#comment-3769 I say every week and if they fail 2 they are out of their league for good. These a holes are making millions and are willing to throw it away-let em!! 2 and out!!<a href="http://www.autostires.com/borbet-wheels-290"> hatton</a> I say every week and if they fail 2 they are out of their league for good. These a holes are making millions and are willing to throw it away-let em!! 2 and out!! hatton

]]> By: yankeeboy http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3768 yankeeboy Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:52:13 +0000 http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/#comment-3768 You are right. I mean, if this was passed out, then all players, especially younger prospects, would not take any performing enhancing drug. But the problem is, Bud Selig doesn't want to go with that. In my opinion, we should have the G.M hire someone who spies on the players to see if any suspicious behavior is going on. Also we should have small hidden surveillance cameras in the clubhouses. That is something that the MLB is willing to do.<a href="http://www.resumeminers.com/Job-Interview/Taf.htm"> yankeeboy</a> You are right. I mean, if this was passed out, then all players, especially younger prospects, would not take any performing enhancing drug. But the problem is, Bud Selig doesn’t want to go with that. In my opinion, we should have the G.M hire someone who spies on the players to see if any suspicious behavior is going on. Also we should have small hidden surveillance cameras in the clubhouses. That is something that the MLB is willing to do. yankeeboy

]]> By: William B http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3767 William B Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:37:50 +0000 http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/#comment-3767 i say every month<a href="http://www.felinehealthguide.com/feline-hyperthyroidism.htm"> William B</a> i say every month William B

]]> By: zippy1306 http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3766 zippy1306 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:20:35 +0000 http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/#comment-3766 Baseball - Yes. I am a college baseball player, and people who cheat and take steroids are the biggest bunch of idiots and sissies ever. What really upsets me is that everyone who is cheating to become better at baseball, that is above me, is holding my spot. They are holding a lot of spots for people to move up to, and they are cheating to do it. I could possibly be at a division one school playing, or maybe be drafted, but i'm not, and one of the reasons is there are SO many people cheating, and they are taking the spots away from the kids that love the game, and have a passion for the game like myself. Baseball is the purest sport America has. Football has surpassed Baseball in popularity, but Football doesn't have the tradition and the spirit that Baseball has. Baseball is the sport you grew up playing, it's the game your dad taught you. You used to think Baseball, hot dogs and apple pie when you heard "America". Baseball is an integral part of American history, and now it has been viciously tainted. I'm glad Barry Bonds' homerun ball went to cooperstown with an asterisk on it; Your head and feet just don't magically grow 2 1/2 inches when you're 33 years old. Bonds' hat size is like 9 1/2 inches. Thats a huge sign of steroids and HGH. If it were up to me, i would try to have baseball players tested monthly. The thing you say you are "missing" is the fact that the Major League Baseball Players Association, or MLBPA, is the most effective Union in American history. Basically, whatever they want, they get. Bud Selig (yes he is an idiot), along with the MLB has to go through the MLBPA to get steroid testing legal in the league, and since supposedly 90% (according to Ken Caminiti) of players use performance enhancing drugs, why would they want testing? To them, it would be like willingly trying to lose your career. To use your analogy, it's like the truck drivers purposely taking drugs to fail. Just in this case, they are taking the drugs, but they are purposely choosing to take a test to fail. I hope that answered some of your questions.<a href="http://www.resumeminers.com/Job-Interview.htm"> zippy1306</a> Baseball – Yes. I am a college baseball player, and people who cheat and take steroids are the biggest bunch of idiots and sissies ever. What really upsets me is that everyone who is cheating to become better at baseball, that is above me, is holding my spot. They are holding a lot of spots for people to move up to, and they are cheating to do it. I could possibly be at a division one school playing, or maybe be drafted, but i’m not, and one of the reasons is there are SO many people cheating, and they are taking the spots away from the kids that love the game, and have a passion for the game like myself.

Baseball is the purest sport America has. Football has surpassed Baseball in popularity, but Football doesn’t have the tradition and the spirit that Baseball has. Baseball is the sport you grew up playing, it’s the game your dad taught you. You used to think Baseball, hot dogs and apple pie when you heard “America”. Baseball is an integral part of American history, and now it has been viciously tainted. I’m glad Barry Bonds’ homerun ball went to cooperstown with an asterisk on it; Your head and feet just don’t magically grow 2 1/2 inches when you’re 33 years old. Bonds’ hat size is like 9 1/2 inches. Thats a huge sign of steroids and HGH.

If it were up to me, i would try to have baseball players tested monthly.

The thing you say you are “missing” is the fact that the Major League Baseball Players Association, or MLBPA, is the most effective Union in American history. Basically, whatever they want, they get. Bud Selig (yes he is an idiot), along with the MLB has to go through the MLBPA to get steroid testing legal in the league, and since supposedly 90% (according to Ken Caminiti) of players use performance enhancing drugs, why would they want testing? To them, it would be like willingly trying to lose your career. To use your analogy, it’s like the truck drivers purposely taking drugs to fail. Just in this case, they are taking the drugs, but they are purposely choosing to take a test to fail.

I hope that answered some of your questions. zippy1306

]]> By: skaizun http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/comment-page-1/#comment-3765 skaizun Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:16:08 +0000 http://www.footballangst.com/blog/should-major-league-baseball-and-football-require-all-players-to-get-drug-tested-every-year/#comment-3765 Truck drivers don't get tested on every run; it would be too expensive, both time and money-wise. Besides, the problems I've had with a scant few truck drivers are bad attitudes, not drugs! (most truck drivers I've "dealt" with are not only good and polite drivers, but one actually "saved" me from getting a ticket! Long story better left for some other time!) As such, pros shouldn't be tested every time, either, but I agree that everyone should be tested at least 20% of the time they play (e.g., for a 16-week pro football season, that translates to about 3 games). There should also be a no-excuse penalty: Get caught doing any unsanctioned or illegal drugs of any kind, and you're out, period, end of discussion. But, that'll never happen either, because management spends too much on players to risk losing their investment.<a href="http://www.resumeminers.com/"> skaizun</a> Truck drivers don’t get tested on every run; it would be too expensive, both time and money-wise. Besides, the problems I’ve had with a scant few truck drivers are bad attitudes, not drugs! (most truck drivers I’ve “dealt” with are not only good and polite drivers, but one actually “saved” me from getting a ticket! Long story better left for some other time!)

As such, pros shouldn’t be tested every time, either, but I agree that everyone should be tested at least 20% of the time they play (e.g., for a 16-week pro football season, that translates to about 3 games). There should also be a no-excuse penalty: Get caught doing any unsanctioned or illegal drugs of any kind, and you’re out, period, end of discussion. But, that’ll never happen either, because management spends too much on players to risk losing their investment. skaizun

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